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- by Ronald Fuller
I recently asked a number of logicians, historians of logic, and logic enthusiasts the following question:
“When exactly and why did logic stop being a core requirement for every single educated person in the west and become seen as a technical, niche elective that only a tiny fraction of educated people know anything about?”
I received 2 responses in the Ontolog Forum:
John Sowa said: "I blame Bertrand Russell. He wanted schools to stop teaching traditional logic and replace it with symbolic logic. He got 50% of what he asked for."
Chris Menzel, a logic professor at Texas A&M, said: "I attribute this far more to the utter havoc wrought upon higher education by conservative, specifically brainless Republican, politicians. They've managed to transmogrify our once glorious system of state universities to a collection of education 'dealerships' whose purpose is to provide a 'service' to their 'clients' that guarantees them a high paying job in business or industry. The on-going gutting of the liberal arts has been a sad consequence of this."
There were numerous responses at Academia.edu:
John Corcoran said: "I have never given this any thought, but it is an interesting question. One thing to bear in mind is that over the years logic got competition from 'critical thinking' and kindred subjects."
The discussion below is from John Corcoran's session at Academea.eddu titled CORCORAN ON LOGIC TEACHING IN THE 21ST CENTURY:
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- by Ronald Fuller
But I no longer think formal logic has much value for critical thinking or for good reasoning generally. (I might make an exception for the logical foundation of mathematics.) Even putting aside the practice of using abstruse symbols, the concepts of validity and soundness virtually never apply to real arguments. They rely on absolute lack of ambiguity or vagueness--and natural language is almost universally both ambiguous and vague. And I once made a search for sound arguments: I examined several hundred. In every one I ever found, we are already convinced of the conclusion without needing the premises. (E.g., All mice are mammals; all mammals are quadrupeds; therefore, all mice are quadrupeds.) What a wanted to find was a deductive argument that was "interesting": meaning: one that led me deductively to a conclusion that I was not already fully convinced of. (I'm not saying that there can't be any such arguments, only that I haven't found any. Maybe you can come up with one.)
Then there is the problem of the symbols and notations. At the beginning, I asked my students in advanced logic to take an editorial of any kind and restate it in symbolic notation. Not one could do it. Neither could I. (Maybe I could if I spent a full day on a single paragraph.) To test it out for yourself, take this letter and reformulate it in symbolic logic, with x's and y's and A's and B's and &'s and v's, in any system of notation that you're familiar with.
If you look at the Foundation's list of intellectual standards, we list some main ones: clarity, accuracy, precision, relevance, depth, comprehensiveness, and so forth. Notice that formal logic gives no insight into any of them. In formal logic, we simply assume that the terms are clear. Accuracy, precision and relevance play no role at all (E.g., From "A & not-A" it follows logically, deductively that the sun goes around the earth). Depth and comprehensiveness are standards that logic does not even aspire to. As you point out, we do have the standard of logic among our standards, but "logical" there means what it means in English: it means that it makes sense, that one part of the argument does not conflict in a serious way with another part. It does not mean that anything does, or does not, follow according to the rules of formal logic or deduction.
This is too long a response to your brief inquiry. I hope I have not inundated you with far more than you were looking for.
Best regards,
Gerald